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Myth #4: Conspiracy theorists believe in UFOs / Aliens / Apollo Moon / Holocaust denial

This is a straw man and an ad hominem fallacy. Not all conspiracy theorists believe in the same things, nor does believing in aliens invalidate their arguments on other theories. The only thing linking these things is that they are all perceived to be conspiracy theories. Each should be evaluated on its own merits.

However, if a theorist bases their beliefs on poor argumentation, then other conspiracy theorists may want to distance themselves from him/her or question that theorist's ability to support their own ideas. Many such people are accused of being deliberately planted to discredit other theories, a technique called the 'poisoned well'. The media then proceeds to discredit an entire investigative movement based on a few silly theories - a strawman attack.

When the media lumps anybody who doesn't trust the government version of 9-11 into the category of flat earthers and holocaust deniers, any real conspiracy there might have been is given the ultimate defense. Namely, a pre-emptive, universal ad hominem on anyone who would dare talk about it publicly, the archetypal 'tin foil hatter'.

Tuesday, August 11, 2026

When a Ghost Answers Back: The Alice Riley Investigation and the Mystery of Intelligent Hauntings

When a Ghost Answers Back: The Alice Riley Investigation and the Mystery of Intelligent Hauntings

By JM Talboo 

There is a big difference between something strange happening in a supposedly haunted location and an apparent response to a question.

That distinction may be one of the most interesting things to come out of a recent episode of Expedition X.

In Season 8, Episode 5, “City of Ghosts,” the team investigates several allegedly haunted locations in Savannah, Georgia. One of the cases centers around Wright Square and the ghost of Alice Riley, a woman who was executed there in 1735.

What makes the investigation particularly intriguing is not simply that the investigators claim to encounter an apparition.

It's the apparent sequence of events.

They were looking for Alice.

They received what they interpreted as the name “Alice.”

Then they asked for a specific response.

And something appeared on thermal imaging in the precise area where they had asked the alleged spirit to go.

If the footage and interaction are accurately represented, that is considerably more interesting than simply finding an unexplained cold spot or seeing something strange in a photograph.

Because it raises a much bigger question:

Was something actually listening?


Who Was Alice Riley?

The historical Alice Riley was an Irish indentured servant who came to the Georgia colony in the early 1730s.

She worked for a man named William Wise. Historical accounts state that Riley and another servant, Richard White, were convicted in connection with Wise's murder in 1734.

Riley was sentenced to death.

Because she was pregnant, her execution was delayed until after she gave birth. She was ultimately hanged in Savannah on January 19, 1735. Her newborn son, James, died shortly afterward. Wright Square became associated with her execution and, eventually, with stories of her ghost.

The historical record and the later ghost story are not necessarily the same thing.

That distinction is important.

The University of North Florida's digital archive confirms the Wright Square association and records the local tradition that the square is haunted by Riley's ghost:

https://digitalcommons.unf.edu/historical_architecture_main/4333/

A historical account also points out that some of the colorful details repeated in modern versions of Riley's story may be later embellishments rather than firmly documented history:

https://www.executedtoday.com/2017/01/19/1735-alice-riley-savannah-ghost/

What is not particularly controversial is that Alice Riley existed and was executed in Wright Square in 1735.

What happened afterward is where history becomes legend.


The Ghost of Wright Square

The traditional haunting associated with Alice Riley is unusually specific.

According to local lore, her apparition appears as a pale or red-haired woman and is sometimes said to be searching for her baby.

Other versions of the story describe encounters with a distressed woman in Wright Square who identifies with Riley's tragic history.

Whether any of these encounters actually occurred is another question.

But there is something notable about the tradition:

The alleged apparition isn't just an anonymous ghost.

It has an identity.

It has a history.

It has a location.

And it supposedly behaves in ways consistent with the historical tragedy associated with that location.

That makes the Alice Riley case particularly useful when discussing what paranormal investigators call intelligent hauntings.


Not All Hauntings Are Supposed to Be the Same

The word haunting can actually describe several very different kinds of reported phenomena.

Residual Hauntings

These are supposedly repetitive events that occur without apparent awareness of the people witnessing them.

A person may repeatedly see the same figure walking down a hallway, hear the same footsteps, or observe the same event occurring over and over.

The phenomenon doesn't appear to respond.

It's more like watching a recording than interacting with a person.

Intelligent Hauntings

This is where things get much more interesting.

An intelligent haunting is one in which an apparent entity seems capable of responding to people, questions or circumstances.

If someone asks, “Are you here?” and receives an apparent response, that's one thing.

If someone asks, “Can you move over there?” and something apparently moves there, that's considerably more interesting.

The problem, of course, is determining whether the response was genuinely related to the question or whether the timing was coincidental.

Crisis Apparitions

These are reports of people apparently seeing or sensing someone around the time that person is experiencing a crisis, injury or death—sometimes at a distance.

These reports raise questions about whether consciousness could somehow be perceived independently of physical proximity.

Full or Partial Apparitions

Some reports involve apparently human figures.

Others involve only a head, torso, face, arm or other portion of a figure.

Thermal cameras add another complication because they don't record ordinary visible light. They record infrared radiation and translate temperature differences into an image.

Shadow Figures

These are generally described as dark, humanoid forms seen briefly, often in peripheral vision or low-light conditions.

Poltergeist-Type Activity

This category generally refers to apparently physical disturbances—objects moving, knocking sounds, doors opening or closing, and other environmental activity—rather than an identifiable apparition.

Electronic Phenomena

This includes alleged electronic voice phenomena, spirit-box responses, unexplained radio-like responses and other supposed communications involving technology.

And then there are cases where several categories appear to overlap.

That's where the Alice Riley investigation becomes particularly interesting.


The Expedition X Investigation

On Expedition X, the investigators aren't simply walking around Wright Square hoping to see something.

They attempt to communicate.

At one point, the team is attempting to establish whether the entity they're encountering might actually be Alice.

They apparently receive the name “Alice.”

That alone wouldn't prove much.

There are plenty of possible explanations for an ambiguous audio response.

It could be another word.

It could be an environmental sound.

It could be pareidolia.

It could be a coincidence.

It could even be the investigators unconsciously interpreting an ambiguous sound according to what they already expected to hear.

But then comes the more interesting part.

The investigator addresses Alice directly and asks her to perform a specific action involving a tree.

And the thermal camera subsequently records an anomalous shape moving across the scene and passing in front of the tree.

The object isn't a perfect, movie-style transparent human body.

It doesn't have clearly visible arms, legs and facial features.

Instead, what appears on the thermal footage is an approximately human-sized horizontal anomaly moving through the field of view.

And it appears in the location the investigators had just identified.

That is what makes the sequence worth discussing.

It's not simply “we saw something weird.”

It's:

“We asked for something specific, and something apparently happened in response.”


The Difference Between an Anomaly and a Response

This distinction is important enough to emphasize.

Suppose you put a thermal camera in a supposedly haunted building and record something strange.

That's an anomaly.

You don't yet know what caused it.

It could be a person.

It could be an animal.

It could be heat moving through the environment.

It could be an optical or thermal artifact.

It could be something associated with the camera itself.

Or it could be something genuinely unexplained.

But suppose you ask an alleged entity:

“If you're here, go stand in front of that tree.”

And then something apparently human-sized moves in front of that tree.

Now you've potentially introduced another variable:

intentionality.

The phenomenon appears to have responded to an instruction.

That is the dividing line between an unexplained event and what paranormal investigators would call an intelligent haunting.

Of course, there's still a huge burden of proof.

The response has to be demonstrated to be genuinely correlated with the request.

The possibility of coincidence has to be considered.

The camera has to be examined.

The environment has to be examined.

And, ideally, independent investigators should be able to reproduce the observation.

But if those conditions can be satisfied, a responsive phenomenon is far more interesting than a random unexplained image.


“Put It in a Laboratory”

There is a perfectly reasonable criticism that can be made of paranormal television investigations:

Where are the controlled experiments?

That's a fair question.

Scientific controls, repeatability, independent observation and peer review are enormously important tools for determining whether an extraordinary claim is actually supported by the evidence.

But there is a problem when those tools become absolute prerequisites rather than tools.

Imagine a haunting that supposedly occurs only at a particular historical location. The witnesses report that something happened there once—or perhaps several times—but the phenomenon doesn't appear on command.

How exactly do you reproduce that in a laboratory?

How many scientific laboratories are purportedly haunted?

And if the phenomenon is supposedly tied to a particular building, location, historical event, person or environmental condition, wouldn't removing it from that environment potentially change the experiment itself?

Unless somebody develops the Ghostbusters' equipment and figures out how to catch an alleged spirit and bring it into the laboratory, we're dealing with a methodological problem that isn't quite as simple as saying:

“Put it in a lab and reproduce it.”

This is not an argument against repeatability.

Quite the opposite.

Repeatability is one of the most valuable tools we have.

The point is that the nature of the phenomenon should determine how we attempt to test it.

A 2015 article on Debunking Death makes this argument while discussing paranormal evidence and the limitations of applying the repeatable-laboratory-result and peer-review model indiscriminately.

The article discusses a reported poltergeist case involving multiple witnesses, including police and firefighters, and argues that an event can potentially constitute evidence even when its particular circumstances make controlled laboratory repetition impossible.

It also explicitly acknowledges that paranormal phenomena have been subjected to repeatable testing and scientific experimentation.

Read the full discussion here:

https://debunkingdeath.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-repeatable-laboratory-resultpeer.html?m=1

The argument isn't that scientific methodology should be discarded.

It's that a methodology is a tool, not an infallible prerequisite for deciding whether an unusual event deserves investigation.

If a phenomenon can be repeatedly demonstrated in a laboratory, that's excellent.

If it can't, the next question should be why.

Is it because the original phenomenon wasn't genuine?

Is it because it was a coincidence?

Is it because the experiment wasn't sufficiently controlled?

Or is the phenomenon inherently dependent upon conditions that the laboratory experiment eliminated?

Those are different possibilities, and they shouldn't automatically be treated as the same conclusion.


What Would a Paranormal Laboratory Actually Look Like?

None of this means paranormal phenomena couldn't be studied under controlled conditions.

In fact, if someone had the resources and the willingness to do it, there are some fascinating experiments that could be designed.

One approach would be to bring supposedly haunted objects into a controlled environment rather than attempting to bring an entire haunted location into a laboratory.

Imagine a properly documented collection of objects with longstanding reputations for paranormal activity.

Place them in a dedicated facility equipped with continuous video, thermal imaging, environmental sensors, audio recording equipment and electromagnetic monitoring.

Establish a baseline before anyone interacts with the objects.

Maintain strict controls.

Document every person who enters the room.

Record everything continuously.

Then you could begin conducting experiments.

And here's where it gets particularly interesting.

If the hypothesis is that certain paranormal phenomena are somehow influenced by human attention, emotion, expectation or the history associated with a location or object, those variables could potentially be tested as well.

Researchers could compare supposedly haunted objects with control objects that look similar but have no paranormal history.

They could test periods of complete isolation against periods of human interaction.

They could document whether reported phenomena increase following attempts at communication or other traditional paranormal practices.

Even the environmental history of the experimental room could become a variable.

None of those procedures would establish beforehand that paranormal phenomena are real.

They would simply provide different conditions under which the hypothesis could be tested.

The important thing is that someone would actually have to be willing to do it.

It is easy to say:

“Put it through a controlled experiment.”

It is considerably harder to design the experiment, fund it, recruit qualified researchers, acquire the materials, maintain controls for months or years and patiently record whatever happens—including nothing happening at all.

If I ever become ridiculously wealthy, this is exactly the sort of experiment I'd be tempted to fund.

I'd buy some of the most notoriously haunted objects I could find, build a properly equipped laboratory, hire people with the appropriate scientific credentials, establish rigorous controls and start testing.

And if nothing happened?

That's data too.

But if something did happen repeatedly under controlled conditions, we'd finally have something much more substantial to argue about.

The point is not that paranormal phenomena should be exempt from investigation.

The point is that we should be creative enough to design experiments that actually give the phenomenon a chance to demonstrate whether it exists.


What Does Any of This Have to Do With the Afterlife?

This is where the subject becomes much more philosophical.

Most people who investigate ghosts aren't ultimately interested in ghosts merely because they're spooky.

They're interested because of one enormous question:

Does consciousness survive death?

That's the real question underneath almost everything involving hauntings.

But even that question may be too simplistic.

Suppose consciousness does survive physical death.

That doesn't necessarily tell us how it survives.

Does a person's consciousness continue indefinitely?

Does it survive for years, centuries or something else?

Does a personality remain intact?

Does memory remain intact?

Can consciousness interact with the physical world?

Could some apparent hauntings be genuine surviving personalities while others are something completely different?

We don't know.

And that's why cases involving historically identifiable individuals are particularly interesting.

The Alice Riley legend, if it reflects something genuinely paranormal, would involve a purported personality continuing to manifest nearly three centuries after the person's death.

That would at least challenge the idea that every alleged after-death manifestation must occur immediately after death.

But it still wouldn't answer the ultimate question of whether an afterlife exists.

It would simply move the question forward.


What If the Afterlife Doesn't Last Forever?

Here's another possibility that rarely gets discussed.

People often frame the afterlife question as binary:

Either consciousness survives death, or it doesn't.

But what if the answer is somewhere in between?

What if consciousness survives for a period of time?

What if some aspect of personality persists temporarily?

What if what people call a ghost is not an immortal soul but some kind of residual manifestation?

What if consciousness changes after death in ways we don't understand?

Or what if the apparent persistence of a person isn't actually the person at all?

These possibilities are speculative.

But that's precisely why paranormal cases should be separated into observations and interpretations.

An unexplained event doesn't automatically prove an afterlife.

But if a phenomenon can demonstrate apparently intelligent behavior, that would be a different category of problem.


The Alice Problem

There is another fascinating aspect of the Wright Square case.

The investigators weren't simply looking for a ghost.

They were looking for Alice.

That's a much more specific hypothesis.

If an unexplained thermal anomaly appeared in Wright Square, that would be one thing.

If an investigator asked:

“Alice, are you here?”

and received something resembling “Alice,” that would be another.

If the investigator then asked:

“Alice, can you go in front of that tree?”

and a human-sized thermal anomaly subsequently appeared in front of that tree, the sequence becomes considerably more interesting.

The critical question then becomes:

Was the sequence genuinely responsive, or are we seeing a series of coincidences that television editing has made appear connected?

That's the question that deserves investigation.


Television Isn't a Laboratory

There's an obvious objection that needs to be acknowledged.

Expedition X is television.

Television shows are edited.

They select footage.

They build narratives.

They have dramatic pacing.

And viewers generally aren't given every second of raw footage, every camera angle or every failed attempt.

That doesn't automatically mean the evidence shown is fake.

But it does mean that the broadcast itself isn't a controlled scientific experiment.

A compelling television segment can therefore be a reason to investigate something further without being the final proof of anything.

In fact, that's probably the fairest way to approach paranormal television in general.

Don't automatically believe it.

Don't automatically dismiss it.

Use it as a source of cases to investigate.


And This Is Where Corroborating Evidence Matters

The most interesting paranormal cases aren't necessarily the ones with one spectacular piece of evidence.

They're the ones where different kinds of evidence appear to point toward the same underlying phenomenon.

For example:

  • A historical person is associated with a location.

  • Multiple witnesses report seeing an apparition.

  • The apparition allegedly behaves consistently with the historical story.

  • Investigators receive apparent communication.

  • A second device records something unusual.

  • The unusual event occurs after a specific request.

  • The response appears to happen in a specific location.

None of those things individually proves survival after death.

But if independent lines of evidence repeatedly converge, the case becomes more interesting.

That's what I mean by corroborating evidence within the evidence.

It's not merely:

“Look, a weird thing happened.”

It's:

“Look at how several pieces of information appear to interact.”


So, Is Alice Riley Still There?

We don't know.

And that's the honest answer.

The historical Alice Riley unquestionably existed and was executed in Savannah in 1735.

The association between Alice Riley and the alleged haunting of Wright Square is a longstanding local tradition.

People have reported encounters with an apparition they identify as Alice.

And on Expedition X, investigators recorded what they interpreted as an apparent communication followed by a thermal anomaly appearing in response to a specific request.

If that sequence represents what it appears to represent, it is fascinating.

But there are still unanswered questions.

Was the audio genuinely saying “Alice”?

Was the thermal anomaly actually a human-sized object?

Was it physically present?

Could it have been a thermal reflection, animal, person, environmental effect or camera artifact?

Was the timing genuinely responsive?

Could the entire sequence be reproduced under controlled conditions?

And, most importantly:

If something really did respond intelligently, what exactly was responding?


The Bigger Question

Maybe that's the most interesting thing about paranormal investigation.

We're often asking the wrong question.

We ask:

“Is that a ghost?”

But perhaps the better question is:

“What phenomenon could produce this?”

And if the answer eventually turns out to involve something we currently don't understand, then we can ask the next question.

Could it be consciousness?

Could it be something that survives death?

Could it be a phenomenon we haven't even imagined yet?

Or could it ultimately turn out to have a completely ordinary explanation?

We don't know.

But if an alleged apparition can receive a question, understand it, and deliberately respond to it, then we're no longer dealing with merely a strange photograph.

We're dealing with the possibility of interaction.

And interaction is where the ghost story becomes a scientific question.

Maybe the real question isn't whether something strange happened in Wright Square.

Maybe it's whether something was listening.

Transcript of COVID Vaxx Link To Turbo Cancers EXPOSED By Legendary Oncologist Dr. Angus Dalgleish!


Transcript of COVID Vaxx Link To Turbo Cancers EXPOSED By Legendary Oncologist Dr. Angus Dalgleish!

Just to make crystal clear, definitely the CO 19 vaccine induces cancer and cancer that shows up at stage 4 instead of normally how it does with stage one too. It just it's it's kind called been called uh colloquially a turbo cancer. That's definite according to your opinion. >> Yes, it's definitely according to my opinion and it is backed up by just so much data. I became aware of you because when you testified uh you talked about the connection between the COVID vaccine and cancer and I just came across this yesterday. This was an interview that Dell Bigree did with an immunologist and let's listen very quickly what he says how what the mechanism is for the co 19 to cause cancer. >> You've looked at this mRNA technology. What is your opinion about the safety of the COVID vaccine that was injected into the entire world? >> So my background is medical biochemistry and looking at metabolism including RNA. In my 25 years of working on RNA, what we learned is that if you want to do anything with RNA, you shouldn't modify it, you shouldn't stabilize it, and you shouldn't inject it. So they did all of that. When they came out with this RNA idea, we kind of laughed at it because RNA has like a halflife of what 2 hours in our if it's not modified, not stabilized. So RNA, unless you modify it, you stabilize it, it's actually useless for anything. >> They took something that is supposed to leave the body quickly and made it persist. Why is that a problem? >> It's a huge problem because RNA should look at it as the blueprint of your house. This is how your cells are translating into proteins and those actually do the work. So if your blueprint is modified in the middle of the construction pattern, just give you an example, then it's going to be a disaster because it's not the same protein as you designed fragments can be formed and this is the majority of spike proteins after modification of its RNA and injections. The biggest danger is because the template stays in the cell is reverse transcription making DNA from RNA and that's the source of anoploity which we all know physicians it's more DNA in the cells that is necessary and that's a cancerous a transformed cell. So you think this could end up causing cancer? We're hearing turbo cancers, autoimmune disease issues. >> It has a huge impact. If you ask me as a medical biochemist, it's beyond a disaster. >> So what he's saying there is that the RNA then infects your cell, your DNA. It changes it and then that causes cancer. Is that what you found? >> Yes. Well, my um first observations were clinical because I noticed that my I ran a big melanoma clinic and I was doing imunotherapy 25 years ago when I was told it wouldn't work. But that is a red flag to a ball for me. I I mean they just have not perfected and worked at it and I was able to get very good responses to melanoma long before we had these big checkpoint inhibitors like Ktruder etc. And I had these patients done incredibly well. And then in the beginning of uh 20 um 21, which was after the is the end of 2021, I started to see patients relapse who'd been stable for years. You know, one of them been stable for 18 years, stage four cancers. So I had six and six weeks and uh you know, they've been between 3 and 18 years. And normally you might get a relapse if you get suddenly very depressed or get very overcome with infection or etc. These people were all perfectly happy except they weren't happy that their melanoma had come back. And so I wanted to know why why this should happen for the first time for years. I started to see relapses like like this. And I asked them as I do everything. Tell me everything. They had all been forced to have booster vaccines by their GPS because they had melanoma. And I said to myself, you know, there's there's old acronism and I found it in a in a um viology with book with vaccines in it where it basically said this as a general rule of thumb. If a vaccine needs a booster, it's pretty sure that it doesn't work. And if it if you give yet another booster, you'll almost certainly collapse the T- cell response. They they knew that 30 years ago. So everybody who brought this out and rubber stamped it is I'm accused of gross incompetence for doing this. But I thought well this must be happening. And we went to check cuz I actually had a T- cell lab because that's how I knew tea cells control the immune system. And surely enough these people's tea cells responses had formed. But before we got round to publishing it ourselves in a big way, there was a fantastic paper by um Fernis Bes who came out of Madrid who had a paper which was absolutely beautiful. It it said T-C cell exhaustion after third cove 2 SARS vaccine in cancer patients and they had you dozens and dozens of these patients and they showed that the T- cell collapse. Now for me that was enough because you've lost the control. TE-C cells control your cancer especially if the cancer's been controlled by emin therapy. But you know I tried to publish this and I published it in BMJ sort of online letters and it was taken down um and with no no communication but I knew lots of people had seen it in that brief time it was up there because they contacted me from all over the world saying we're seeing the same thing and I even contacted by surgeons who said we are seeing a total change in people who have been vaccinated uh particularly with colarctal surgery They're seeing them uh present advanced stage. Instead of one, two, cut it out, off you go. They were presenting with metastasis in the liver and the lung and they're presenting much younger. This led to the term turbo cancer which uh they all tried to downplay, but it's just hyper progressive cancer which has been recognized in iminology for years. So I thought there's something else going on here. it's not just the TE-C cell response because that wouldn't lead to this sort of turbo uh business. Something is driving it. And so I started to look at the um molecular mechanisms and I found as the speakers just said that that messenger RNA goes in and it creates a DNA which integrates into the virus and then keeps pumping this stuff out. The integration is totally random. So these things can integrate next to an a gene that will promote cancer uh or cell growth but if it's switched on permanently it will give you cancer. So these genes were shown to be overdriven and even worse it could show to it was can sit next to a cell with suppressor genes i.e. genes that will switch off cancers if they get switched on. is part of the overall control, but they were interfering with all the suppressor gene. Now, I've worked with several scientists and we had a real problem getting a lot of this um getting this uh published. In fact, we've got a paper in press at the moment which I hope doesn't get pulled because of the people interfere. But we found the same as Elder uh and his colleagues Wafik Eliri who presented at the Senate with me uh that he confirmed that they interfere with all these anti-cancer mechanisms and at the end of the day we counted at least 12 mechanisms how these vaccines can induce uh or um promote cancer. It is it's really frightening. Now, just one mechanism is enough to call a red card and say, "Halt, halt. We don't want to be giving a whole generation of people early cancer, and nobody seems to be of any interest." And all they did, I got accused of spreading misinformation. I said, "I'm not spreading this information. I'm trying to stop you killing my, you know, my patients and your patients." And that's what staggered me. There's there's no debate uh allowed. There's no science allowed to be discussed. >> So this never happened before in your career. You never saw anything like this. This kind of censorship, the suppression of scientific research that you did, the scientific debate which is essential for science to happen. You never saw this before. What what what do you think drove this? What was this? Seems like a uh as if some kind of mangala figure took over the whole western world science. Uh what what what do you equate this with? >> Well, I I mean I thought about that very deeply too and because I cannot understand it. I was brought up in good faith. You do science in good faith. You might make some hypothesis and uh you rely on other scientists to show you're wrong and to show no this is the way and gradually science builds up and you get a very good understanding. It can also be knocked off course by another finding that completely uh knocks away your rationale for your findings. But this was all killed in COVID. Um I never saw it really in in cancer research. I I'll be honest there. I mean everybody seemed to want for the better. I was unaware of any major um suppression cancellation in cancer research. But what was interesting knowing what I was seeing and know now in CO I realized this had been going on very subtly in HIV days and what was the one thing in common between HIV and COVID? Tony Fouchy. >> Ah >> Tony Fouchy being he was given far too much control. He is a is a total egotist narcissist and dictator and a very vile person in my view because anybody who crossed him he basically tried to bury them take away their grants not give their grants uh interfere with with grant committees it was just unbelievable and I spotted this behavior in the HIV days and once again there's a lot of parallels with HIV and COVID you know the introduction of fear Yeah, be very afraid, you know, nobody's safe until everyone's safe, all this business, you know, take all these precautions and go to hospital and have these drugs. And in HIV days, it was AZT, which was a reurposed anti-cancer leukemic drug that was deemed too toxic for cancer patients. So why on earth would you use it and push it for HIV when it was known that if you treated the patient well um and you know made them healthy that they didn't progress uh fast in the way that it did say they needed AZ in fact AZT actually caused further immune suppression in fact you could say that there's an age one of them is AZT induced immune depression uh syndrome So and that of course the modern version of what we saw with AZT in COVID was run rem desave or as the nurses called it run death is near because it had a 5% mortality rate. You didn't need drugs like this the ordinary ordinary simple drugs and we we been through all this. I was preaching you just need to treat COVID with standard respiratory drugs, things like highdose vitamin D, uh soluble aspirin, uh the um the first defense type things which used to contain interferon or alpha lipids up your nose and uh if you got the cough started going down, you use the steroid spray becide just like an asthmatic and if it went down below, you use dexamethasone. Now those very simple things would save the vast majority of people who died of COVID. But certainly in the UK we followed the same textbook now that that Fouchy wrote for us. Do nothing until they need to go to hospital. And then I found when I was in the states that the doctors were paid for each per patient they treated with rem desave when you know simple real treatments would work very well. I was horrified to find out in the UK they inflicted a randomized trial on everybody who was breathless in the hospital they called it recovery. Now it was six different drugs, one of which was dexamethasone and the only one that was effective was dexamethasone. Well, every respiratory physician worth his salt knows that is mandatory. You must use that. So one of my colleagues calculated that that trial killed four and a half thousand people by uh designing it so they wouldn't get dexamethasone. I mean this is this is the absolute big tragedy and crisis and again going back to um HIV you know Fouchy was involved in studies uh that he wanted a positive study from or he wanted a negative. We saw this exactly the same in COVID with hydroxychloricquin and and ivormectin and these things. These these were superb anti-covid drugs and I believe it was a crime to tell people not to have these because the only reason they did this is now very obvious they wanted to be able to inflict the vaccine program on us. And it is well known if you have something that uh greatly reduces the chances of dying like I have amein hydro you cannot possibly justify a vaccine program. So I think we're uncovering an enormous crime uh against humanity by the people who pushed all this stuff. But at the end of the day Fouchy was the lead conductor. But but so why uh I I would I I had someone who worked for this show who bought every piece of propaganda pushed by big pharma and the media and Tony Fouchy and I was trying to show him that no there you're being lied to as usual by big pharma and the pharma bought media. Um and he said oh really every doctor in the world is being is going along with this. So I didn't know at the time that doctors like you and doctors like Peter McCulla and Per Corey and uh Robert Malone were being censored. I didn't know that at the time. So I didn't have >> I didn't know what to say back. But you know most doctors still go along with it today. And so isn't are are you like how how disappointed or chag grinned or just mind blown are you by the I mean if you knew this stuff and other why didn't more doctors stand up and say something do you think why why did why did doctors just go along with this if they knew Ivormectin was I knew d ivvermekin was a human medicine I knew ivor ivormectin won the Nobel prize for human medicine it saved millions of lives so doctors must have certainly known this why weren't doctors pushing back against this. Why would they go along with this death vaccine and not push a safe drug like ivormectin? I agree it is an unbelievable question to ask but I think I can partially answer it is because the control of the health services and the uh the medical councils absolutely punished anybody who didn't obey the the path of you must do vaccine you mustn't give uh ivormectin etc. I mean it was unbelievable and I know people who lost their jobs. I mean even somebody who committed suicide because they just couldn't stand it. They was they didn't have a single COVID desk death but they were struck off because they had used ivormectin. I mean this is unbelievable madness. And so it is like a warning to the others. So the others got frightened. Other people get put on leave. They get struck off for the most simple things. And I've been defending these people whether it be in the the UK, Australia, New Zealand. And what is incredible and in other places in Europe. Now what is actually incredible is that the this has come tumbling down from the top in all the countries. It's identical. The first thing you must do is induce fear and prosecute any doctor that steps out out of line. Now I uncovered with a guy a good friend and very experienced in law that all this was highly illegal because ingrained and and I'm I'm not sure of US law. I'm not a US lawyer. At any rate with regards to Europe and Australia and New Zealand are very very similar. There is actually in embedded in the law a thing called the magisterial formula. It's embedded as a fundamental right. And what it says is that no doctor can possibly be uh punished for um doing the best for the patient, his patient, providing its informed consent even if it breaches uh government guidelines. I mean it's actually there. So they are breaking their own law. They don't even know their own law. So why is were they first rule number one shoot all the doctors who who stray out of line? Why would you do that? I mean they completely deprofessionalized my profession that I went into very proudly. I'm now disgusted with it. >> So how did Dr. Fouchy get the head of the uh NHS to go along, the people in New Zealand to go along, the people in Australia to go along? So it was a top- down thing. And I know like here in California, the government actually would dispar uh doctors who talked about Ivormectin and they did it under and it got held up in court. They did it under the idea that that was called conduct. And so that was instead of being free speech uh to give a doctor give his professional opinion to his to his patient. They called that bad conduct and they would get them to spar take away their license. And so that by the way that just got overturned, Pier Cory's case just got overturned in in the United States. So that's a big deal. We're going to cover that Monday. So that's a big big deal. Um but um so what why would the go so is it just because of big pharma money? Is that really what it was that they they can corrupt every country like that? It all came from Mona and Fizer funding. We we know that that the medical journals are corrupt. We know that. But all the like every head of a hospital, every the head of the NHS, the head they were all under the thumb of big money. Yeah. Well, they we I know with regards to the um NHS, etc. Um that Fouchy uh phoned our top guys personally and basically told them what to think. Their job was to question what is this guy telling us to do? This is madness. You know, they they just did what they said. how he had such power and influence is a disaster and no individual should ever have that again. But yes indeed it was top down because I said I've been to these places trying to defend doctors who've been charged with being very good doctors only to find the same phrases come up all the time. The same attitude and these are in countries which would normally like to pin themselves. Oh, we have a much better system than X or so and so me and yet they all did exactly the same. But they're all incredibly guilty. We must we have to reform the system so this can never ever happen again. And I do believe it all came out the whole thing came out of the the the DARPA plan to basically have uh everything ready for the next pandemic without actually realizing. Now the irony is is that if you didn't have these plans for rapid vaccines and do all the search behind them, you would never have a pandemic. And the pandemics have been artificially manufactured by the WH which basically has got far too much money, far too much influence and nothing to do. So they basically are literally manufacturing the pandemics. Now when I sort realized COVID came out of the Wuhan lab, no ifs, no buts, 100% can absolutely impossible for any other explanation what anybody else says. And um Steven Key is one of your your best brightest scientists in the US also presented to Senate you know ba basically on um the a basic big computerized analysis he he does basian he does basian mathematical analysis it showed that the virus was 100% from the lab or 99.999% recurring. So you know we know all that. So why did that they all basically stamped this down? Well, the reason I I really believe they stamped this down is because they were all pushed into this by big farmer who basically this is obvious. I mean they said we're not going to invest this money unless we get a guaranteed return. And this all goes back to your 1986 vaccine identity act. He removed the liability from all big farmer when there was just a handful of vaccines and ever since then now there are about 72 and uh the the checking for whether they are one work or two are dangerous has been kind of totally removed. Well having got emboldened with that they basically want to create new pandemics so they can use all this technology for another another pandemic. And I look back at all the past pandemics and I think that none of them would have occurred if it wasn't for human interference and laboratories and leaks and that's big. And with regards to your question with regards big farmer, I would just like to point out something that's just recently happened. Madna have just had a messenger flu RNA vaccine approved by FDA. It was the same panel that uniformly said that on the evidence given it's not as good as the ones we've got and two it's a lot more dangerous. They were asked to reconsider their ridiculous uh decision and they 100% changed their mind and said okay okay okay all right it's all right you can have it now why would why would on the same data you change your recommendation to a big farmer when just think about it FDA FDA big farmer complete rotation on our side in the UK we have the MH that's your FDA and the two top people 50 years between them experience in FISA. I mean this is a total revolving door and a totally unacceptable way for drugs and vaccines to be regulated. >> So you're saying that the vaccine the COVID vaccine was not created for the COVID pandemic. You're saying that they created the COVID pandemic for the COVID vaccine because they wanted to use this mRNA COVID vaccine. That's what you're saying. Well, I I if I I would say that only a madman would think that, but when you actually look back at all the evidence, they were doing all this gain of function work. Um why would you do a go gain of function to make an ordinary dopey virus that would just give you a bit of a flu? Why would you make it much more dangerous? And their aim was to make it much more infectious for human cells. and they say in defense this is so uh when it gets out or a similar virus comes out there we can make a vaccine quicker for it. They don't realize the irony if they hadn't been doing this it would never have gone out and there would be no natural virus that caused that type of chaos. And I honestly believe that the other ones including bird flu, swine flu and things uh Ebola all these ones they try and scare scare us with. I believe that they're all as a result of this desire >> gain of function >> to make vaccines for things that and most vaccines are not needed. You know, that's that is my other thing that I've come across. I was horrified how I've been lied to by um by my education. uh you know we would we are really groomed that vaccines are the biggest success story of world medicine ever you know and if it wasn't for that we'd all be dead you know and that has to be really one of the biggest con lies and I mean I like everyone else felt for it was co that gave me the telescopes and the microscopes to start looking at what's really going on and it was it's horrifying how much we've been lied to and misled So, do you do you think we'll ever get to a place where the majority of people agree with what you just said? >> You know, that's that's an incredible uh incredible um question. Can I just tell you uh something which I think I can't answer the question question yes or no but what I can tell you something is that what I have noticed is the more educated people are the higher up the rank they are doctor or a scientist the more they will disagree with me and they won't uh uh change their minds or it will be very tough but if I go to my local village and I go into the the local pub or so and the people there, they are not sort of top doctors or scientists. They're workmen, they're builders or policemen or this, that, and the other. Do you know what I find? I find that they've all all agree with me. I mean, they picked it all up. They come up to me and thank me, buy me a beer, and say, "Thank God there's somebody up there who who does know all this is going because they worked it all out themselves. They they've worked out that um you know they got friends who died of strokes and heart attacks after they rolled the vaccine out and now they've got people and it's happening to me all the time. I mean I' I've had a couple of uh deaths and people I know very well in the last month and they'd all receive booster vaccines and they both died of turbo cancer, you know. So I'm actually I don't need to see the patients. I don't need to see all this wonderful data which I actually have uh quite a bit here. I've got all the data from Rojson sitting there how the cancer instance has gone through how it correlates with the booster viruses etc. So I believe that the people out there are gradually coming round to it. The elite as I call them uh the the elite whose entire careers and everything depend on funding but from a very corrupt system. They will be the last to change their minds. But the man on the street I believe has already changed his mind. And the young people lot I would say the majority of young people have cottoned on that this is a fraud and that co destroyed their lives their education and if they've had too many vaccines their health. They they know what the governments are trying to do is drag this into the long grass and drag it out to the point where everybody will say, "Oh, move on. Move on. Forget about it. Forget about it." No, that is not what we are to do. They have got to hold everybody to account like they did Tony Fouchy last week. Um, and they have to hold everybody account and they got to punish them so nobody ever thinks of doing this again because if you don't, it will happen again. That's the whole reason for the WH. >> So just to make crystal clear definitely the CO 19 vaccine induces cancer and cancer that shows up as stage 4 instead of normally how it does with stage one too. It just it's it's kind called been called uh colloquially a turbo cancer. That's definite according to your opinion. Yes, it's definitely according to my opinion and it is backed up by just so much data and this again tells you what's going on. There was a paper published in um in curious uh a it's an article which were is a journal that publishes articles that might be a little bit contentious but it was on the office of national statistics of Japan and it was in millions of patients and they showed very clearly that each booster vaccine induced more cancers and that was an interesting paper because it wasn't just limited to what I call the imological cancers like melanoma etc. a whole range of cancers. So that was the first one that told me that the possibility of these viruses driving uh new cancers and promoting old cancers was real. Now what happened with this had been through every kind of review. The results were so important that it was hyper review. It was published and then a load of bots come up and say this has got flaws. the we don't like the methods. Take it down. The editor said no. Um I'll send it out to review again. And then he said there's no problem. Guess what happened to that journal? Nature Springer bought it out and then removed the paper and then said carry on. This is what's going it's going on at a very very high level. and uh colleagues of mine have identified that FISA uh pay a team of people to go through every journal basically targeting and attacking the editor to remove it if it suggests that its vaccines are anything less than safe and effective and that is definitely going on and it h you know we know it happened um in the COVID boom era we know that and this is you mentioned Pier Corey but have you I mean it was he did brilliant work with the ivormectin and it was clear that it worked very well and guess what the big farmer were paying your CBC's and Walgreens etc to dishonor Ivormectin scripts i.e. to ignore them. I mean, this is the level this is the level of interference and corruption that's been going on and we have to get rid of it because otherwise we're never going to have uh we're never going to have good health actually because um this has made me go all the way into everything. I mean I I've spoken to people who used to work for FISA who said the culture there is we're not interested in cures, we're only interested in expanding markets. Well, that that fits that fits with what I see. So the the spike protein they thought now it's come out in in emails and Tony Fouch's diary that he knew it was a bad idea and he was advised by people in fact the guy who discovered the HIV virus and a that he there's an email from him to Tony saying hey this don't don't do a a treatment with this spike protein cuz this is a bad idea. Yeah, I think that was Luke Montany, wasn't it? >> I think so. And >> yeah, I think it is. And who unfortunately he made a big fuss about it and ended up um dying. Uh we don't we don't know exactly why, but some people have been very suspicious because he had tremendous clout being a Nobel Prize winner, >> right? Yes. He he won the Nobel Prize and he there's an email from him telling Anthony Fouchi, don't do this. a bad idea to use this spike protein because it creates in, you know, your body's going to attack itself and >> he exactly the same as I said. I mean, it's incredible. So, it it there just wasn't one or two or three of us. There was lots of us, but we were all silenced, but just certain people like certainly like me, no one was going to shut me up because I'm past myself by date. I, you know, I I don't have to uh work uh in order to survive. And so I was prepared and he was prepared too. But he he was a real kind of threat to them. And I'm I must say I'm suspicious from because I know I knew Luke and Bob Gallow too because I had done this receptor in ' 84 and we had you know probably four meetings a year where around the world where we all got together and uh so know all this. So he he was absolutely spot on when I I saw Luke. Luke copied me in on this by the way. So I was aware of this >> and then and so then Tony So Tony Fouche completely ignored that >> and went ahead with it anyway and then this guy who's a Nobel Prize winner who warned him about it and then was going to make a stink about it. He died suspiciously. >> Exactly. Very. >> What was Do you know what the official cause of death was that they say? >> No, I don't. I honestly don't. I can't get get I cannot get anything out other than that they're very suspicious >> that you know he wasn't particularly unwell at the time uh why he suddenly died and you know people of his age and that they do die from time to time but you do get a bit suspicious when he was clearly a major thorn being a Nobel Prize winner saying this is mad I mean I was saying it that this was mad exactly the same as Luke Montany But I it was easy to dismiss me uh and certainly my own colleagues dismiss me as I'm a sort of maverick cancer doctor and I know nothing about vaccines and iminology which is actually nearly laughable because they know even less. >> Yeah. Hey, come see me do a live celebrity panel August 30th in Burbank, California. Then stand up in New York City at Village Underground September 13th. And then in Chicago September 18, 19, and 20 in Rosemont and Chicago. Go to jimmy.com for a link for tickets.

Monday, August 10, 2026

New Ukrainian Moon UFO Observations Put the Moon’s Strangest Anomalies Back Under the Microscope

New Ukrainian Moon UFO Observations Put the Moon’s Strangest Anomalies Back Under the Microscope

By JM Talboo 

What if the Moon isn't quite the dead, inactive world we were taught to imagine?

A new preprint from researchers associated with Ukraine's Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine is making an extraordinary claim: high-speed observations near the Moon have captured objects that the researchers interpret as unidentified craft, including disc-shaped objects estimated at 25 to 40 kilometers across and toroidal, or ring-shaped, objects approximately 36 kilometers in size.

The researchers report speeds reaching approximately 11 kilometers per second, unusual brightness fluctuations, and apparent rotation.

Most remarkably, the authors ultimately propose that the Moon may serve as a base for UFOs and that these objects may represent a technologically advanced civilization.

Those are extraordinary claims.

They are also claims that remain unproven.

The paper is a preprint and has not established its conclusions through independent peer review or replication. But that doesn't necessarily make the underlying observations unworthy of examination.

And that is where this story gets interesting.


The Ukrainian Observations

The latest paper, “UFO Dynamics on the Moon,” is authored by Boris Zhilyaev, Vladimir Petukhov and Sergey Pokhvala, who identify themselves with the Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine in Kyiv.

According to the paper's abstract, high-speed video recordings of the sky near the Moon revealed numerous objects that the researchers broadly divide into “atmospheric” and “continental” categories.

The reported atmospheric objects produce flashes lasting between approximately 100 and 500 milliseconds, with brightness variations occurring at frequencies of a few hertz.

The more dramatic claims concern the objects the authors classify as continental.

The paper reports:

  • Disc-shaped objects approximately 25–40 kilometers in diameter

  • Toroidal objects approximately 36 kilometers across

  • Reported speeds reaching 11 km/s

  • A reported toroidal rotation period of approximately 180 seconds

  • A calculated centrifugal acceleration of approximately 2,200 cm/s², roughly twice Earth's surface gravity

  • And the authors' conclusion that the Moon may function as a UFO base.

An earlier paper by the same researchers, Observations of Unidentified Flying Objects on the Moon, reported objects ranging from approximately 14 to 36 kilometers, speeds between 6 and 11 km/s, and reconstructed disc-shaped and toroidal forms.

The researchers say their observations were made using high-speed astronomical imaging.

That doesn't automatically establish their interpretation.

But it does mean that the claims are not simply coming from an anonymous person posting a blurry cellphone video.

The Ukrainian observatory has publicly posted the research:

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/717-ufo-dynamics-on-the-moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/709-observations-of-ufos-on-the-moon

The full preprint is also available through research repositories.


The Angry Astronaut Reconsiders Old Lunar Footage

This is where the story gets considerably more interesting.

YouTuber The Angry Astronaut recently examined the Ukrainian research in a video titled:

“Insane! Astronomers spot huge UFOs orbiting the Moon!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJOk72eCsU

The video doesn't merely discuss the new observations.

It also brings up older footage that The Angry Astronaut says he previously believed was fake.

And then he says something remarkable:

“Which for a very long time I thought was fake, but now I'm not so sure.”

That doesn't mean he is claiming that the old footage has been proven genuine.

He isn't.

He's saying that new information has caused him to reconsider a previous conclusion.

That is one of the most interesting aspects of the story.

The old footage, according to his discussion, appears to show something moving across the lunar surface in a manner that he now finds difficult to dismiss outright after seeing the new Ukrainian material.

He also makes an important distinction concerning the Ukrainian research itself:

“That does not make the interpretation correct, but it does mean the raw claim is coming from professional instrumentation, not a backyard telescope or a viral phone clip.”

That's an important point.

Professional equipment does not guarantee a correct interpretation.

But neither should a controversial interpretation automatically make the underlying observations unworthy of examination.


A Long History of Strange Things on the Moon

The Ukrainian observations aren't appearing in a vacuum.

The Moon has been the subject of anomalous observations for centuries.

Observers have reported transient flashes, glows, obscurations and other unusual phenomena on its surface. More recently, UFO researchers have compiled enormous catalogs of photographs they believe show structures or objects that appear difficult to explain as ordinary lunar terrain.

One extensive collection, “Strange Moon Surface Anomalies,” discusses alleged formations including:

  • The Tower

  • The Shard

  • The Castle

  • The Lunar Cylinder

  • The alleged Ukert Crater triangle

  • Objects associated with Apollo 12

  • Alleged moving objects known as Fastwalkers

  • And other unusual geometric formations.

https://www.unariunwisdom.com/strange-moon-surface-anomalies/

Another lunar-anomaly archive contains discussions of alleged structures referred to as The Tower, The Castle, The Dish, The Paperclip, and others.

https://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/lunar_anomaly.html

None of these names constitute scientific classifications.

They are names given by investigators who believe the images deserve further examination.

And some of the claims are much stranger than others.


The “Gun Turret” on the Moon

Here's the one that took some digging.

If you've ever tried searching for a “Moon gun turret,” “lunar cannon,” “mile-long gun turret,” “Apollo 16 gun turret,” or “gun emplacement on the Moon,” you may have discovered that finding the original source is surprisingly difficult.

The reason is that the claim comes from a specific documentary rather than from NASA itself.

The 2014 documentary Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed examines an Apollo photograph and presents an interpretation of what investigators believe can be seen in it.

According to the documentary's narration, the photograph was taken by the Apollo 16 astronauts and allegedly shows a huge fortress-like formation consisting of a towering cylindrical structure positioned next to what might be a gun turret extending for more than a mile in the Mare Crisium region. The documentary also discusses a possible massive satellite dish.

That is almost certainly the image many people remember when they talk about a supposed “giant gun turret” or “cannon” on the Moon.

And the wording matters.

The documentary does not establish that NASA discovered a lunar gun.

It presents an interpretation of NASA imagery.

So there are three separate questions:

What does the original photograph actually show?

What did the documentary's investigators believe it showed?

Is that interpretation correct?

Those questions should not be collapsed into one.

But if you've been searching for that strange image of what looks like a giant cannon or gun emplacement on the lunar surface, the documentary is the trail to follow.

And yes—the alleged structure was described as extending more than a mile.

That's the phrase worth remembering.


The Tower, Castle, Dish and Other Lunar Anomalies

The alleged gun turret isn't an isolated claim.

Researchers who investigate lunar anomalies have identified numerous photographs they believe depict geometric or artificial-looking structures.

Among the most famous are:

The Tower

An enormous vertical formation that some investigators have interpreted as an artificial tower or construction.

The Castle

A complex-looking formation that has been interpreted as having apparent columns, structural elements and a central tower.

The Dish

A formation interpreted as resembling a gigantic communications dish or antenna.

The Shard

A tall, apparently geometric formation that has been interpreted by some investigators as an enormous artificial structure.

The Lunar Cylinder

An apparently cylindrical object that has attracted attention because of its unusual geometry.

The scale of some of these alleged objects is enormous.

But scale is one of the most difficult things to establish from a single lunar photograph.

Without reliable distance information and an appropriate reference, something that looks enormous may be much smaller—or may not be a discrete object at all.

That is why obtaining original imagery, examining multiple frames and establishing geometry are so important.


The Question of the Original Images

There's another reason the older lunar-anomaly material remains so controversial.

A photograph can be perfectly authentic while an interpretation of the photograph is completely wrong.

Lighting can create dramatic shadows.

Low-angle illumination can make ordinary terrain appear architectural.

Compression and image processing can introduce artifacts.

Perspective can distort familiar shapes.

And the human brain is exceptionally good at finding recognizable patterns in ambiguous imagery.

But the opposite problem exists too.

A photograph being ambiguous does not automatically mean the object in it has been explained.

The scientifically useful question isn't:

“Does it look like a building?”

It's:

“What measurements or observations would allow us to distinguish a building from a geological formation or image artifact?”

That's the standard any extraordinary interpretation ultimately has to meet.


What About the Moon's Other “Anomalies”?

The UFO literature surrounding the Moon contains much more than photographs of alleged structures.

There are also reports of:

  • Transient lunar lights

  • Strange flashes

  • Moving objects

  • Objects appearing above the lunar surface

  • Geometric formations

  • Apparent shadows without obvious sources

  • Unusual color changes

  • Objects seen in or around lunar photographs

Some observations have conventional explanations.

Others remain disputed.

And some are simply too poorly documented to reach a meaningful conclusion.

That doesn't make them evidence of aliens.

But it also doesn't make every historical observation automatically worthless.


The Flat-Earth Perspective: What If the UFO Story Is Part of the Cover-Up?

There is another perspective that deserves to be included—not because it has been proven, but because it represents a radically different interpretation of the entire lunar-anomaly phenomenon.

From a Flat-Earth perspective, the alleged UFOs, lunar structures and strange Moon imagery may themselves be part of the deception.

In this interpretation, the anomalies aren't necessarily exposing a secret extraterrestrial presence.

They may be part of the cover story designed to distract people from what is supposedly really happening.

In other words, the mystery itself could be the distraction.

The public sees strange objects.

Researchers argue about alien bases.

People debate whether structures are artificial.

Documentaries present dramatic interpretations.

And, from this perspective, all of that attention may be directed toward the wrong question.

The underlying idea is essentially:

What if we're being given a mystery to investigate because the real mystery is somewhere else?

This is a much more extreme proposition than the claim that unidentified objects are operating around the Moon, and there is no established evidence proving it.

But it is worth documenting because it demonstrates just how radically different the interpretations of the same material can become.

One person looks at a strange lunar photograph and sees an extraterrestrial installation.

Another sees a geological formation.

Another sees a camera artifact.

And the Flat-Earth interpretation asks whether the entire UFO narrative itself could be part of a larger deception intended to conceal the true nature of the world.

For readers interested in that perspective, this page presents a collection of lunar-anomaly material from within the alternative-research community:

https://bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_moonanomalies12.htm

And that brings to mind a quotation frequently circulated in conspiracy and alternative-research circles:

“Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him.”

—Albert Pike

Whatever its ultimate provenance, the sentiment captures the idea being discussed here: if people need a hero, villain, mystery or explanation, what if one is supplied to them?

Source:

https://ifunny.co/picture/whenever-the-people-need-a-hero-we-shall-supply-him-FdQlwZpQA

Again, that is presented here as the Flat-Earth/alternative perspective, not as an established explanation for the Moon.


The Moon's Extraordinary Eclipse Geometry

The lunar-UFO discussion also frequently moves into another unusual feature of the Earth-Moon system: total solar eclipses.

The Moon currently appears almost exactly the right angular size in Earth's sky to completely cover the Sun's photosphere while leaving the solar corona visible.

It is an extraordinary coincidence.

The Moon is also slowly receding from Earth, meaning the geometry of total solar eclipses is temporary on geological timescales.

This has led some people to wonder whether the timing is somehow significant.

But there is an important distinction.

The eclipse geometry is real.

The Moon's recession is real.

But neither fact establishes that the Moon was deliberately positioned here.

The coincidence can be fascinating without being proof of design.

And this is an important principle for the entire lunar-anomaly debate:

A strange coincidence is a reason to ask a question, not automatically an answer to it.


The Moon's Density and Origin

Another frequently discussed lunar characteristic is its density.

Earth's average density is approximately 5.51 g/cm³, while the Moon's is approximately 3.34 g/cm³.

The Moon therefore has a substantially lower average density than Earth.

The leading scientific explanation is the giant-impact hypothesis, in which a Mars-sized body—often called Theia—struck the early Earth and debris eventually formed the Moon.

The model provides a mechanism for a Moon with a relatively small iron core and a much larger proportion of mantle material.

There are, however, continuing scientific questions surrounding exactly how the Moon formed and how to reconcile the details of lunar formation models with the remarkable similarities between Earth and Moon samples.

Those questions are legitimate scientific problems.

They are not evidence that the Moon is artificial.

But they are another reminder that the conventional story of the Moon continues to develop as new evidence is examined.


The Peer-Review Question

This may be the most important issue raised by the new Ukrainian work.

The papers are preprints. They have not been established through peer review.

That matters.

Peer review is an important part of science because independent experts can examine methodology, calculations, data interpretation and conclusions.

But there is another side to the discussion.

What happens when controversial work is never given a serious opportunity to undergo that process?

The Angry Astronaut makes that argument directly.

Discussing the Ukrainian research, he says:

“Nobody is going to peer review something like this, which again in my opinion is incredibly irresponsible. If you want to disprove stuff like this, then give it a chance to stand up against peer review.”

That isn't the same as saying:

“It's not peer-reviewed, therefore it's true.”

It's the opposite challenge:

If it's wrong, examine it rigorously and demonstrate where it fails.

That is a legitimate position.

Our own article “Peer-Reviewed 9/11 Truth” isn't about UFOs or lunar anomalies, but it examines controversies surrounding peer review and why the process shouldn't be treated as a magical stamp of absolute truth.

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/10/peer-reviewed-911-truth.html?m=1

Peer review is important.

But peer review is performed by human beings.

It can identify errors.

It can improve research.

It can reject bad work.

And it can sometimes be influenced by disciplinary boundaries, assumptions, incentives and controversies surrounding a subject.

So the appropriate position isn't “peer review is meaningless.”

It's:

Peer review is an important tool—but it isn't the final word on reality.


What We Actually Know

At this point, it's useful to separate the claims from the conclusions.

What is documented?

Researchers associated with Ukraine's Main Astronomical Observatory have published preprints describing high-speed observations of unidentified objects near the Moon.

What do the researchers report?

They describe objects with estimated dimensions ranging from kilometers to tens of kilometers, including disc-shaped and toroidal forms, with reported high speeds and brightness variations.

What do they conclude?

They propose that the objects may represent manifestations of a technologically advanced civilization and that the Moon may serve as a base.

Has extraterrestrial origin been established?

No.

Has the new work been independently replicated and accepted through peer review?

Not at this point.

Does that automatically mean the observations are false?

No.

Does the fact that professional astronomical equipment was used prove the interpretation?

No.

That's the line we should keep throughout this investigation.


The Most Interesting Part May Be What Happens Next

The most scientifically useful outcome of this controversy wouldn't be for everybody to suddenly declare that the Moon is an alien base.

It would be for independent researchers to examine the data.

Check the instrumentation.

Examine the image-processing pipeline.

Verify the distance calculations.

Analyze possible optical artifacts.

Compare the observations with satellites, aircraft, spacecraft and other known objects.

Attempt simultaneous observations from multiple locations.

Try to reproduce the reported measurements.

If the objects are artifacts, show us.

If they're ordinary objects at a different distance, show us.

If the calculations are wrong, show us.

And if independent researchers perform those tests and the observations continue to resist explanation?

Then the story becomes considerably more interesting.

That's how controversial claims should be handled.


And What About That Old Video?

This brings us back to the footage that started another part of this investigation.

The Angry Astronaut says he once thought the video was fake.

After seeing the new Ukrainian material, he's no longer certain.

That does not prove the video is real.

It does demonstrate something else:

People can change their minds when new information causes them to reconsider old evidence.

That's worth remembering in both directions.

A believer should be willing to change his mind if the evidence fails.

A skeptic should be willing to change his mind if the evidence survives scrutiny.

And an investigator should be willing to say:

“I don't know yet.”

That may be the most honest answer available right now.


So… What Is Really Going On Up There?

The Moon has been photographed more extensively than almost any other object in the night sky.

We've orbited it.

We've landed on it.

We've driven vehicles across it.

We've collected samples.

We've left scientific instruments there.

And yet, somehow, the Moon continues to generate some of the strangest claims in modern anomalous research.

Some of those claims will almost certainly turn out to have mundane explanations.

Some may be artifacts of photography.

Some may be misidentified objects.

Some may simply be stories that grew larger over time.

But the new Ukrainian observations give us something different to examine: a contemporary set of quantitative claims made by named researchers using astronomical instrumentation.

Whether those observations ultimately survive scrutiny remains to be seen.

And the old lunar footage remains an open question for those who find it compelling.

The alleged mile-long lunar gun turret or cannon remains an interpretation from a 2014 documentary—not a discovery announced by NASA.

The Tower, Castle, Dish and other alleged structures remain interpretations of photographs.

The Flat-Earth claim that the entire UFO narrative could itself be part of a cover-up is another hypothesis entirely.

And none of these should be confused with established fact.

But neither should the existence of controversy be used as an excuse to stop investigating.

So we're going to put the claims on the table.

Here are the observations.

Here are the photographs.

Here is the footage.

Here are the researchers.

Here are the interpretations.

Here are the criticisms.

And now we wait to see whether somebody is willing to put the new claims through the kind of rigorous examination that could either knock them down—or make them considerably harder to dismiss.

We'll wait and see.

And if nobody even gives it a serious shot?

Remember that we said that.


Sources & Further Reading

Main Astronomical Observatory of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine — UFO Dynamics on the Moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/717-ufo-dynamics-on-the-moon

Main Astronomical Observatory — Observations of UFOs on the Moon

https://www.mao.kiev.ua/index.php/en/forum/info/709-observations-of-ufos-on-the-moon

ResearchGate — UFO Dynamics on the Moon

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/403225173_UFO_Dynamics_on_the_Moon

ResearchGate — Observations of Unidentified Flying Objects on the Moon

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/399584853_Observations_of_Unidentified_Flying_Objects_on_the_Moon

The Angry Astronaut — “Insane! Astronomers spot huge UFOs orbiting the Moon!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJOk72eCsU

Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed (2014) — transcript

https://www.subtitlecat.com/subs/174/Aliens%20On%20The%20Moon%20-%20The%20Truth%20Exposed%20%282014%29.html

Unariun Wisdom — Strange Moon Surface Anomalies

https://www.unariunwisdom.com/strange-moon-surface-anomalies/

TarrDaniel — Lunar Anomaly Archive

https://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/lunar_anomaly.html

Biblioteca Pleyades — Moon Anomalies

https://bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/luna_moonanomalies12.htm

911 Debunkers — Peer-Reviewed 9/11 Truth

https://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2012/10/peer-reviewed-911-truth.html?m=1

iFunny — “Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him”

https://ifunny.co/picture/whenever-the-people-need-a-hero-we-shall-supply-him-FdQlwZpQA

Skinny Bob: New Footage Emerges as Recent Analysis Claims the Original Alien Footage Is Real

Skinny Bob: New Footage Emerges as Recent Analysis Claims the Original Alien Footage Is Real

By JM Talboo 

The strange story of “Skinny Bob” has suddenly become interesting again.

For anyone unfamiliar with the case, the original Skinny Bob footage appeared on YouTube in 2011 under the username ivan0135. The grainy, apparently archival footage appeared to show a humanoid “Grey” alien being examined by what appeared to be military personnel. Other videos associated with the account appeared to show UFOs, military personnel and additional alleged extraterrestrial material.

For more than a decade, the footage has remained one of the most debated pieces of alleged alien footage on the internet.

Now, in 2026, there are two developments worth noting: recent technical analyses have argued that the original Skinny Bob footage may actually be genuine, and entirely new footage claiming to be connected to the Skinny Bob material has appeared online.

Recent Analysis Claims Skinny Bob Is Real

In July 2024, researcher Noah Hradek published an analysis titled “Skinny Bob is not CGI.”

Hradek examined the original footage using image-processing techniques, including error-level analysis, noise-pattern analysis and examination of the lighting in individual frames.

His conclusion was striking. While acknowledging that the analysis could not establish the footage's authenticity with absolute certainty, Hradek argued that the evidence indicated that the footage was probably not CGI.

He wrote:

“All of this indicates it’s a real photo with real lighting, modern CGI can do that kind of lighting but remember this was released in 2011 when CGI was more simplistic.”

Hradek ultimately estimated that the footage had a relatively low probability of being CGI, while emphasizing that questions about where and when the footage was actually recorded remain unanswered.

His complete analysis can be read here:

https://medium.com/@noahhradek/skinny-bob-is-not-cgi-239ef9ba1dee

Hradek published another analysis shortly afterward, specifically testing Skinny Bob imagery against machine-learning classifiers designed to distinguish CGI from photographic imagery. In that analysis, several of the models produced relatively low probabilities that the Skinny Bob image was CGI. He described the results as supporting his earlier conclusion that the footage was “probably not CGI,” while also acknowledging that the testing did not constitute absolute proof.

That analysis is available here:

https://medium.com/predict/cgi-classification-using-fourier-embeddings-f668e4f652a6

A separate forensic examination published in July 2025 also revisited the original 2011 videos using modern techniques. The analysis examined movement, lighting, blinking, motion vectors, Fourier analysis and several AI-generated-content detection tools. Its provocative title was “The Skinny Bob Footage Is Real… But Not How You Think.”

That examination can be found here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/the-skinny-bob-footage-is-real-but-not-how-you-think/id1741618111?i=1000717630124

Again, none of these analyses independently proves that Skinny Bob was an extraterrestrial being. What they do demonstrate is that researchers have continued to subject the original footage to increasingly sophisticated technical examination, with some arguing that it does not behave like conventional CGI.

Then, New Skinny Bob Footage Appeared

On July 29, 2026, three new videos began circulating after appearing on a YouTube channel called qtecqot.

The videos were presented as additional material connected to the mysterious Skinny Bob footage. They reportedly include footage of an unidentified craft, what appears to be military personnel examining the interior of a craft, and another apparent appearance of the humanoid figure associated with the original Skinny Bob videos.

The appearance of the videos immediately generated debate online. Some viewers have argued that the material represents previously unseen footage from the same source, while others have questioned whether the new material was created using modern CGI or artificial intelligence.

At this point, the provenance of the new footage remains unverified.

A recent article from Stanisland Magazine examines the new material and provides access to the footage:

https://stanisland.com/is-new-skinny-bob-footage-real/

The article describes the videos as allegedly containing additional evidence connected to the original Skinny Bob material and discusses the unusual circumstances surrounding their appearance.

A Mystery Gets a New Chapter

The Skinny Bob story began more than fifteen years ago with a handful of anonymous videos uploaded to YouTube.

Since then, the footage has been dismissed by some as CGI or a sophisticated hoax, while others have continued to argue that something about it doesn't fit the conventional explanation.

What makes the latest developments interesting is that the original footage is now being examined with tools that simply weren't available when the videos first appeared. At least some of those analyses have concluded that the imagery appears inconsistent with conventional CGI.

And now, more than a decade after the original videos appeared, new footage claiming to be connected to Skinny Bob has surfaced.

That doesn't settle the mystery.

But it certainly gives investigators, researchers and anyone fascinated by unexplained footage something new to examine.

Friday, August 7, 2026

Nine Feet in the Idaho Forest: Examining the 2026 Payette National Forest Bigfoot Report

Nine Feet in the Idaho Forest: Examining the 2026 Payette National Forest Bigfoot Report

The Bigfoot mystery continues to generate reports from across North America, but some cases stand out because of the number of witnesses involved, the circumstances surrounding the encounter, and the questions they raise about Sasquatch behavior.

A recent report from Idaho has all of those elements.

Published in the July 2026 issue of Bigfoot Times, the case involves a group camping in the Payette National Forest near McCall, Idaho, during Memorial Day weekend. What makes this report particularly interesting is that it was not a single person seeing something unusual from a distance. Multiple witnesses reported seeing or hearing unusual activity over several days.

Before examining the details, it should be noted that a sighting report does not automatically prove the existence of an unknown animal. However, good investigation requires looking at the details, considering alternative explanations, and asking what questions remain.

This is exactly the type of case where careful analysis is needed.

The Payette National Forest Encounter

According to the report summarized in Bigfoot Times, the incident occurred approximately 16 miles northeast of McCall, Idaho, in the Payette National Forest.

The BFRO report was listed as report number 81-202 and was submitted by Kyera Tipper on May 27, 2026.

The group consisted of approximately ten people camping from May 22 through May 25, 2026.

The first unusual incident reportedly occurred Friday night when Abby, one of the campers, saw a tall dark figure behind another couple’s tent. She reportedly did not mention it immediately because she did not want to frighten the group.

The following day, after an argument at camp, Colton walked into the tree line to get away from the situation. Kyera later followed, believing she was looking for him.

While in the woods, Kyera reported hearing someone walking nearby and whistling from different directions, creating the impression that whatever was making the sounds was moving around her.

She initially believed Colton was responsible. However, when she returned, Colton told her he had already been back at camp.

Later that night, the group reported hearing branches breaking, which they initially attributed to coyotes or other wildlife.

The most dramatic part of the report occurred around 3 a.m. on Sunday morning.

Daniel reportedly saw a figure standing on two legs, approximately nine feet tall, with “blank, reflective eyes,” walking toward him.

The group reportedly grabbed a .22 rifle and entered the woods to investigate.

According to the report, when they moved toward another camp because they believed the figure was heading in that direction, they felt they were surrounded by three or more creatures.

Daniel and Colton later described seeing figures approximately nine feet tall, covered in dark fur, standing upright, and moving in a way they felt was too fast and coordinated to be human.

They reported that the figures appeared to use trees for concealment and seemed to circle the group.

Additional reported activity included knocking sounds, a possible handprint on a vehicle, and a footprint photograph. However, the Bigfoot Times analysis noted that the footprint image was not detailed enough for meaningful examination.

Matt Moneymaker of the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization reportedly spoke with two of the witnesses and stated that he believed they were telling the truth.

The important distinction here is that believing a witness is truthful does not necessarily mean every interpretation of an event is correct. A person can honestly describe an unusual experience while still being mistaken about what caused it.

That is why these cases require careful examination.

Multiple Witnesses and the Importance of Investigation

One of the strongest aspects of this report is the number of people involved.

A single witness report can be challenged in many ways. The person may have misidentified an animal, misunderstood distance or lighting conditions, or interpreted an unfamiliar experience incorrectly.

However, when multiple people report similar observations, the investigation becomes more complex.

That does not automatically prove a Sasquatch encounter occurred, but it does make the case more interesting.

Daniel Perez, editor and publisher of Bigfoot Times, has long emphasized the importance of actually investigating witnesses rather than dismissing reports without speaking to the people involved.

In my 2008 interview with Daniel Perez, he discussed the importance of eyewitness investigation and criticized situations where researchers dismiss cases without directly examining the testimony of those who experienced them.

Source:
Undebunking Bigfoot: Interview with Bigfoot Times Newsletter Creator Daniel Perez
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2008/04/interview-with-bigfoot-times-newsletter.html

The Migraine Question and Infrasound

One of the most interesting details in the Idaho report is that several witnesses reportedly experienced migraines before the encounter.

Some Bigfoot researchers have suggested that infrasound could potentially explain certain recurring experiences reported in some encounters, including headaches, discomfort, anxiety, or feelings of unease.

Infrasound refers to sound frequencies below the normal range of human hearing. While infrasound exists in nature and can be produced by storms, animals, machinery, and geological activity, the idea that Sasquatch produces or uses it remains a hypothesis rather than an established fact.

Still, the timing reported in this case is worth noting.

The witnesses did not simply report headaches after becoming frightened. They reported unusual physical sensations before the alleged encounter.

Whether this has a connection to the event or is simply coincidental remains unknown.

Could It Have Been Bears?

One of the most common skeptical explanations for Bigfoot reports is that witnesses are actually seeing bears.

This is a legitimate question. Bears can stand upright, and misidentifications can happen.

However, the bear explanation should be evaluated based on the complete description, not just the fact that bears sometimes stand on two legs.

The Sasquatch Field Guide by Dr. Jeff Meldrum compares distinguishing features between bears and reported Sasquatch characteristics.

A bear typically has:

  • ears positioned on top of the head,

  • a visible snout,

  • sloping shoulders,

  • shorter limbs.

Reported Sasquatch descriptions commonly include:

  • ears positioned more to the side of the head or hidden,

  • a flatter facial structure,

  • broad shoulders,

  • longer limbs,

  • different body proportions.

This does not mean every Bigfoot report is correct. It does mean that “it was probably a bear” should not automatically end the discussion without examining the details.

I previously examined this argument in:

The Bigfoot Are Really Just Misidentified Bears Argument
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-bigfoot-are-really-just.html

The question is not whether bears can explain some sightings.

The question is whether a bear explanation fits every detail of every report.

A Question of Sasquatch Behavior

Perhaps the most unsettling aspect of the Idaho report is not simply the size of the figures described, but the behavior witnesses believed they observed.

The witnesses interpreted the movement of the figures as an attempt to circle them and separate members of the group.

That interpretation cannot be independently confirmed.

However, it raises an important question:

If Sasquatch existed, would we expect every individual to behave like the gentle creature portrayed in popular culture?

A real animal would have instincts, individual personalities, territorial behaviors, and survival needs.

The idea that every member of an unknown species would be harmless is an assumption.

In the Bigfoot Times discussion of this report, the behavior described was compared to possible hunting strategies used when pursuing deer.

That does not mean the witnesses were being hunted.

It means the reported behavior raises questions about how an unknown large primate might interact with its environment.

I explored this broader question in:

Could Bigfoot Be Dangerous? Examining the Overlooked Question of Sasquatch Behavior
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2026/08/could-bigfoot-be-dangerous-examining.html

The point is not to portray Sasquatch as a monster.

The point is that if it were a real animal, it would not necessarily fit into a simple category of either “friendly” or “dangerous.”

Nature is more complicated than that.

Another Idaho Report: Lowman, Idaho

The Payette National Forest report is not the only recent Idaho case.

BFRO report number 81-276 describes a June 2026 sighting near Lowman, Idaho.

Unlike the Payette report, this involved a single witness during daylight.

Donald Schmidt reported seeing movement approximately 60 to 70 yards away while hiking near Deadwood Reservoir.

He initially considered the possibility of a bear or mountain lion.

After watching for approximately a minute, he reported seeing the animal stand upright and walk away.

Schmidt described the figure as between five and six feet tall, with reddish hair, a tall head, no visible neck, and broad shoulders.

The witness reportedly had extensive outdoor experience and regularly encountered wildlife.

Interestingly, Schmidt stated that he had previously been skeptical of Bigfoot reports and had even teased his brother about a previous sighting near McCall.

After his own experience, he reportedly became less certain.

This type of report is interesting because it comes from someone who did not appear to be actively searching for Sasquatch.

Why No Photograph?

A common criticism of modern Bigfoot reports is:

“Everyone has a camera. Why didn’t they take a picture?”

It is a fair question.

However, the existence of a camera does not guarantee a usable photograph.

Wildlife encounters often happen:

  • unexpectedly,

  • at distance,

  • through vegetation,

  • in poor lighting,

  • before a person has processed what they are seeing.

A person may spend the first few seconds trying to understand whether they are looking at a bear, a person, or something unfamiliar.

The Bigfoot field also does not lack claimed photographs and videos.

The debate has generally centered on interpretation, authenticity, and quality rather than a complete absence of imagery.

I previously examined claimed Sasquatch photographs and videos in:

Highly Probable, Possible, Inconclusive, and Widely Rejected Sasquatch Videos and Photos
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2014/11/highly-probable-possible-inconclusive.html

More recently, I examined newer high-resolution footage and the challenges of evaluating modern digital media in:

Evidence That New Real Up Close Sasquatch Video Is Real and Todd Standing's Footage Too!
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2026/06/evidence-that-new-real-up-close.html

The issue has never simply been a lack of images.

The issue has been whether the images can reach a level of certainty that convinces everyone.

Final Thoughts

The Idaho reports from 2026 are interesting because they bring together many of the biggest questions in Bigfoot research:

  • How reliable are eyewitness accounts?

  • How should multiple witnesses be evaluated?

  • How do we distinguish Sasquatch reports from bear encounters?

  • What would the behavior of an unknown large primate actually look like?

  • How much weight should be placed on photographs and videos?

The Payette National Forest report does not solve the Bigfoot mystery.

But it is exactly the type of case that keeps the discussion alive.

The most important question may not simply be whether Bigfoot exists.

It may be this:

If an unknown intelligent animal existed in the wilderness, would we really understand its behavior before encountering it?

Sources:

Bigfoot Times
https://www.bigfoottimes.net/

Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization
https://www.bfro.net/

Undebunking Bigfoot: Interview with Bigfoot Times Newsletter Creator Daniel Perez
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2008/04/interview-with-bigfoot-times-newsletter.html

The Bigfoot Are Really Just Misidentified Bears Argument
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-bigfoot-are-really-just.html

Highly Probable, Possible, Inconclusive, and Widely Rejected Sasquatch Videos and Photos
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2014/11/highly-probable-possible-inconclusive.html

Could Bigfoot Be Dangerous? Examining the Overlooked Question of Sasquatch Behavior
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2026/08/could-bigfoot-be-dangerous-examining.html

Evidence That New Real Up Close Sasquatch Video Is Real and Todd Standing's Footage Too!
https://undebunkingbigfoot.blogspot.com/2026/06/evidence-that-new-real-up-close.html